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Clarification the official Doctor Web statement regarding Governmental malwares


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#1 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 15 Февраль 2017 - 22:08

Hi.

i hope you all have a Great Day, you too Igor Danilov if you are reading :)

 

this subject was in my mind for almost a year, so i finally found out where is better here to ask it? where there is a possibility which this could monitor by Igor Danilov himself.

 

well whats the question? i'll tell you.

 

take a look at this news which published on 2013 from some trusted sources: 

http://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-and-threats/do-antivirus-companies-whitelist-nsa-malware/a/d-id/1112911

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/05/av_response_state_snooping_challenge/

 

the question is clear. the only companies which not answered to the questions was Symantec,McAfee,Microsoft accroding the news.

So we will assume that Doctor Web didn't receive that question in that time.
 
right now in 2017, nothing changed, the question still is alive, so Doctor Web, what is your official response to such these malwares created by hands of Governments?
 
Good Night!

 


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#2 sergeyko

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Отправлено 16 Февраль 2017 - 12:38

Aha, the govs are such the dumbs, so that they just walked into the AV-vendor offices: "Hey guys, we've just implemented a new pretty naughty piece of spyware, would you just don't detect it, please. We are the good guys, you know." Is that the picture? Oh maybe a virlab specialist, analysing hers 57th piece of malware a day sees a watermark in the body "The Great Country Government property. Do not detect." and skips it?
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#3 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 16 Февраль 2017 - 13:04

Aha, the govs are such the dumbs, so that they just walked into the AV-vendor offices: "Hey guys, we've just implemented a new pretty naughty piece of spyware, would you just don't detect it, please. We are the good guys, you know." Is that the picture? Oh maybe a virlab specialist, analysing hers 57th piece of malware a day sees a watermark in the body "The Great Country Government property. Do not detect." and skips it?

 

it could be happens, but not that easy you are talking about, we are sure they are not come in your office to say hey this is a spyware which we want use that in a cyberware against another country, so do not detect it !  no they will not do such thing, BUT , they could ask Doctor Web to whitelist a spyware, so please just let us know, what is Doctor Web statement if recieve such request ! ;)

 

as you can see in the news, Symantec-McAfee-Microsoft, didn't answer to this question ! which means they have something to hide. so what about you Doctor Web?

i personally trust you, BUT it would be great if you clear your statement once for ever regarding this request ;)


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Отправлено 17 Февраль 2017 - 12:44

That's how it's being done in Italy :)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/02/16/government-iphone-android-spyware-is-the-same-as-seedy-spouseware/
https://boingboing.net/2017/02/15/title-italy-unveils-a-law-pro.html

e. Trojan production and uses must be traceable by establishing a National Trojan Registry with the fingerprint of each version of the software being produced and deployed. f. The trojans must be certified, with a yearly renewal of the certification, to ensure compliance with the law and technical regulation issued by the ministry


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#5 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 17 Февраль 2017 - 12:51

That's how it's being done in Italy :)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2017/02/16/government-iphone-android-spyware-is-the-same-as-seedy-spouseware/
https://boingboing.net/2017/02/15/title-italy-unveils-a-law-pro.html

e. Trojan production and uses must be traceable by establishing a National Trojan Registry with the fingerprint of each version of the software being produced and deployed. f. The trojans must be certified, with a yearly renewal of the certification, to ensure compliance with the law and technical regulation issued by the ministry

 

 

as always Sergeyko just leave the topics without an useful answer, just troll the questions :D

hope Igor Danilove or one of Staffs have better answer to give us .

 

Thank You for the sources by the way. ;)


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#6 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 19 Март 2017 - 12:47

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/17/security_software_is_a_threat_to_your_privacy_too/

"Also, yes, we can handle the CIA, says F-Secure lead researcher Jarno Niemelä"

 

Can you handle it too Doctor Web?

 

is there anyone here to give me an email to contact and ask this question? i have not any response in this topic yet and yes i know the response is not guaranteed in this forum, so again, is there anyone here to give me an email to contact and ask this question?


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#7 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 00:42

this Concern, resolved by Boris Sharov's Response

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#8 sergeyko

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 11:50

And why do you think it's all right to make public your private answer in the private ticket?
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#9 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 11:57

there is no rule for that Sergeyko, i read all of forum rules,

and i didn't public ticket number ( which is in rules )

 

but the main detailes? there is no rule for that.


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#10 sergeyko

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:11

What about common sense?
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#11 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:18

What about common sense?

 

my common sense tell me to make it Public as much as i can, becuase, if someone else had similiar question, will here to ask, and some guys like YOU, make a joke about their question, and leave it without the answer, while this question already Solved! and this is not something Private, if it was, CEO of Doctor Web, never will answer it in a ticket ! where is your common sense?

 

and dear @RomaNNN please close this topic which is resolved!


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#12 Nenya Amo

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:20

Personally, I believe that if the sender's letter does not specify that the information is confidential and is not transferable to third parties, then nothing is wrong with that.



#13 sergeyko

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:36

Personally, I believe that if the sender's letter does not specify that the information is confidential and is not transferable to third parties, then nothing is wrong with that.

Right. And if a person doesn't say "frankly" or "honestly" in his statement, he has all the rights to say lies... 

 

Got your point! 


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#14 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:39

correct me if i'm in mistake, did Sergeyko just called Boris Sharov lier? :D


 


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#15 sergeyko

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:42

 

correct me if i'm in mistake, did Sergeyko just called Boris Sharov lier? :D


 

Reading, thinking and understanding are not your strong skills.  B)


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#16 Mr.Pr

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 12:43

 

 

correct me if i'm in mistake, did Sergeyko just called Boris Sharov lier? :D


 

Reading, thinking and understanding are not your strong skills.  B)

 

 

thank you for yor kind opinion, but did i really care about that? that is the question O_o


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#17 Nenya Amo

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Отправлено 22 Март 2017 - 13:08

It seems the answer is received on the question asked. Does it have a place for further discussion ?!



#18 Dmitry_rus

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Отправлено 23 Март 2017 - 20:52

IMHO, this topic should be closed...




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